http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#2360b521-1f5d-4992-a176-f694c2084170 Sure what your talking about I am not. But this thread just wont die I love the fact that. This time even after all, I dont think anyone got free crap jet fuel. Courtesy of the yoda speech generator: http://www.googleminiapps.com/2850/fun-games/convert-english-to-yoda-speak-gadget/ Tue, 14 Apr 2009 17:29:00 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#2360b521-1f5d-4992-a176-f694c2084170 doctor 2009-04-14T17:29:00Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#173236c6-6ca9-47aa-9919-51d0f1886000 large amount of jet a 1 can and will be mixed every time with a new batch of jet a1 with a new delivery of jet a1 fuel.... Sat, 11 Apr 2009 18:24:10 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#173236c6-6ca9-47aa-9919-51d0f1886000 gert 2009-04-11T18:24:10Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#347b37c3-bb35-4fa5-bdff-cbe07d6ac3d7 Biodiesel blended >2% makes a better fuel lubricant than any of the aftermarket products available. Thu, 18 Dec 2008 23:26:16 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#347b37c3-bb35-4fa5-bdff-cbe07d6ac3d7 Heath 2008-12-18T23:26:16Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#efea5efb-822e-40a8-accd-8015b0a61de3 I've been running JET-A in my 2002 Golf for several months (off highway of course!). I usually mix w/ dino diesel but I haven't noticed any negative impact. Jet fuel has a slightly lower BTU so you might notice some power loss/higher consumption. Here are some answers... According to regulation, fuel stripped from a commercially operated aircraft (for ANY reason) cannot be reused unless it is filtered by an approved (read: expensive) filter system. We operate several corporate jets and fuel is always being removed for one reason or another; fuel tank repair, weighing, over-filling (rare) and daily tank sample tests. It costs about $750 to dispose of a 55 gallon drum so our company sees no evil in this. WARNING! jet fuel is not taxed for on-highway use so if anyone catches you, big fines are in your future. (you just negated the free fuel...) If you choose to use jet-A in your ride, ALWAYS use a fuel lubricant like Stanadyne, PS or Opti-Lube (my fav). Google it. Jet is very dry and will prematurely wear pumps, injectors, etc.... Ride free! Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:19:41 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#efea5efb-822e-40a8-accd-8015b0a61de3 Rob 2008-11-30T06:19:41Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#a9b3a0f4-a0a5-4f73-bb0c-01469faf8369 so i am guessing by the lack of your response to my email, the fuel is gone? Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:30:23 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#a9b3a0f4-a0a5-4f73-bb0c-01469faf8369 Justin 2008-06-14T16:30:23Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#ba0557f9-27a2-42d5-8bd0-07e782c9518b simple, condansation buildup in fuel tank then that water goes to the bottom of fuel tank and the only way to take it out is to drain some fuel out. that fuel is not reusable by regulations. Wed, 04 Jun 2008 18:58:19 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#ba0557f9-27a2-42d5-8bd0-07e782c9518b mathieu 2008-06-04T18:58:19Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#49a8e352-c4f1-4d38-91a7-7f069dedb7ff Any jet fuel that has been defueled from a military aircraft can no longer be used for aviation purposes. The justification is that the cleanliness of the fuel can no longer be garanteed. However, there is likely no problem with the fuel at all. The reasons for defueling can be varied. If may be required for reasons as simple as overfueling to having a need to do fuel cell maintenance. If the aircraft in question is large like a C-5/17/130, there is likely to be a large quantity of fuel. I am making a guess, but I suspect that the rules for civil air carriers with regard to defueling are the same. If so, it is likely that the fuel was obtained in this fashion. Thu, 06 Dec 2007 00:56:01 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#49a8e352-c4f1-4d38-91a7-7f069dedb7ff Tom 2007-12-06T00:56:01Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#7ab36395-6325-4d83-98e6-cc7e7cb74225 im sure its just timed out. in other words,its old. i have a freind who has the same deal only its with a much larger jet engine reasearch company. gas fer me ass fuel ferme mule , its all the same to me. Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:18:37 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#7ab36395-6325-4d83-98e6-cc7e7cb74225 Justin 2006-07-30T17:18:37Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#5044d5a9-3627-410e-9984-d0c9492d7f08 regardless, the original poster seems to be MIA and noone has heard back about how to get the fuel. if its going to be "disposed of", id say burning it in a diesel engine sounds like a good way to go. there not a lot of good ways to turn petrochemicals into something environmentally benign that you would say, water your plants with. burn it and its (mostly) gone. however, the contamination issue is a bit fishy - if they wont burn it in their engines, why should we burn it in ours? what got into the stuff? still, like i said, orignial poster is gone so it all seems a moot point. Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:44:26 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#5044d5a9-3627-410e-9984-d0c9492d7f08 andy 2006-07-30T13:44:26Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#0e1cee57-d11b-482a-8534-7de1f94d8d77 I don't get it, how would dispsing of fuel without accomlishing work be better? Should I be buying gas form the station and unrefining it too? I imagine it is better than diesel by virtue of not having sulphur added, but I may be wrong. Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:47:59 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#0e1cee57-d11b-482a-8534-7de1f94d8d77 R01 2006-07-29T19:47:59Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#c49a3d82-1478-4825-b7c3-28ea50bad47e Fair enough. Just wondering if there is a better way to dispose of it, i.e. break it down somehow. Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:35:45 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#c49a3d82-1478-4825-b7c3-28ea50bad47e Je suis le singe et le lion 2006-07-29T19:35:45Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#41784582-1e6d-4bd3-8eea-d93b984f9262 its free, it needs to be disposed of, and it sould mix just fine with biodiesel. im with the doctor on this one: road trip!!! Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:11:11 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#41784582-1e6d-4bd3-8eea-d93b984f9262 Justin 2006-07-29T00:11:11Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#b42d8788-6696-4bc1-b25e-116e62780ff4 This smells more like an ad than someone helping out a friend. And what about the ecological effects of burning this fuel? Is this what biodiesel people really want to be getting into? Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:05:39 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#b42d8788-6696-4bc1-b25e-116e62780ff4 Je suis le singe et le lion 2006-07-29T00:05:39Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#ce686b20-d9cf-44e5-be82-fdc263c45ef8 yup, i want some too. Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:37:48 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#ce686b20-d9cf-44e5-be82-fdc263c45ef8 Justin 2006-07-28T07:37:48Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#d03b92ec-1d99-4646-a2f1-43f467d8ce01 I'm still waiting to hear back about picking some up, oh well. Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:23:07 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#d03b92ec-1d99-4646-a2f1-43f467d8ce01 hazmattous 2006-07-28T06:23:07Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#6c5d66a0-b971-468e-b128-5b8bb716e356 road trip! Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:56:28 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#6c5d66a0-b971-468e-b128-5b8bb716e356 doctor 2006-07-28T00:56:28Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#a9136d9b-50c4-466d-89c5-955e3a37010f Thanks for the clarification regarding jet fuel vs aviation fuel. Makes sense. I’d certainly take some, if it weren’t for the fact i’d have to drive 700 miles to pick it up. ;-) Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:37:47 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#a9136d9b-50c4-466d-89c5-955e3a37010f Hawkeye 2006-07-28T00:37:47Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#5b2471ac-da1e-496d-8ca9-62f492ee0563 Jet fuel is basically a very high grade kerosene. Kerosene burns in diesel engines just fine, and, in fact, it can be used to cut the viscosity of diesel to keep it from gelling in colder climates and colder weather. That said, jet fuel will clean things out, though maybe not as well as B100. None the less, if they are going to have to just discard the fuel, and there isn't anything major wrong with it, then for crying out loud, take it! It's free, and right now, it's headed for the waste stream. There is still that nagging question about what happend to make it unusable for the helicopters. I would presume it got contaminated or something? Mon, 24 Jul 2006 01:10:19 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#5b2471ac-da1e-496d-8ca9-62f492ee0563 Glenn 2006-07-24T01:10:19Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#fb62e925-df54-44f2-a616-f719d60ef8b8 jet fuel and aviation fuel are two completely different fuels Jet fuel is very close to diesel. It is used in gas turbine engines such as those in helicopters, jets and turboprop engines. Aviation fuel is a very high octane gasoline for use with piston engine aircraft. Sun, 23 Jul 2006 21:28:36 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#fb62e925-df54-44f2-a616-f719d60ef8b8 hazmattous 2006-07-23T21:28:36Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#64c69e5e-bea0-4eb5-aca2-a4e736930568 Well B100 will clean out your engine too. My mechanic told me that aviation fuel does indeed clean out a gasoline engine’s fuel system. Are you sure this will run in diesel cars, though? I am somewhat skeptical that a single fuel may be used in both gasoline and diesel engines. I too am curious why this fuel cannot be used in helicopters? I am told that it can sit for years (decades) and still burn cleanly (unlike gasoline). Incidentally, so can petro-diesel. Sun, 23 Jul 2006 18:18:07 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#64c69e5e-bea0-4eb5-aca2-a4e736930568 Hawkeye 2006-07-23T18:18:07Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#7f12c503-ebdf-49a2-baf1-82451ecab6b5 What happened to this jet fuel to cause it to be unusable? Fri, 21 Jul 2006 12:50:55 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#7f12c503-ebdf-49a2-baf1-82451ecab6b5 Glenn 2006-07-21T12:50:55Z http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#020b4aa7-476f-4bd0-afff-622ebe0c094a Take advantage of a great opportunity. I have a friend who flies helicopters out of Sausalito. He has some jet fuel that they can't put into the helicopters. It makes a great diesel fuel and at $7/gallon original cost you know this is the good stuff. Run a tank thru and give your tank, pump and injectors a nice cleaning and help a company dispose of this fuel in a good way. e-mail me at tokata@verizon.net and I can help you. I can't post their contact info or it will just get to crazy up their. Please be courteous to their schedule and no messes :-) Thu, 20 Jul 2006 19:10:32 GMT http://biodiesel.tribe.net/thread/1460056b-4eaa-4ce3-b766-0853dc54db0b#020b4aa7-476f-4bd0-afff-622ebe0c094a Mike 2006-07-20T19:10:32Z