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That's right keep your use low key, or the state will make you pay 18-cents per gallon. Nice way of showing support for using alternative fuels.
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Re: California road tax being charged for corn oil used as fuel.
Wed, October 10, 2007 - 3:12 PM> keep your use low key
Low-key use of untaxed bio-fuels on public roads is blatant tax evasion and a violation of state and federal law. Of course, the same is true for untaxed petrochemical fuels as well. Commercial operators that get caught running "red-dye" diesel get very, very stiff penalties.
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Re: California road tax being charged for corn oil used as fuel.
Wed, October 10, 2007 - 4:08 PMits quite common for alternatives fueled vehicles to pay taxes......Have you noticed those yellow stickers on hybrids and electric cars (at least in Ca) those stickers tell the LEOs that you have paid your taxes, if you do not have that on your vehicle and a LEO pulls you over it is a hefty fine. Your not paying taxes on fuels your paying taxes on roads. -
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Re: California road tax being charged for corn oil used as fuel.
Wed, October 10, 2007 - 6:55 PMSeems a bit odd to tax the same oil twice. I don't see anything abut driving on another fuel that should exempt one from paying for road maintainence. -
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Re: California road tax being charged for corn oil used as fuel.
Thu, October 11, 2007 - 12:30 AMYou made two statements:
> Seems a bit odd to tax the same oil twice.
I'm not sure what this is in response to, however there are many, many situations where various government entities will tax something as many times as it can. I am only responding to this comment as this is something that I find particularly reprehensible given my libertarian bent.
> I don't see anything abut driving on another fuel that should exempt one from paying for road maintainence.
This is a well-made point. I get the impression that many people choose to make and run bio-diesel in an effort to avoid paying taxes on fuel which contributes significantly to the cost of fuel. In California, we are presently paying $.60 per gallon in state and federal taxes. I'll applaud someone if they want to stick it to the man and not pay taxes, but they certainly aren't helping the rest of us that do pay taxes. That all having been said, I'd rather that more people were up in arms over egregious taxation... again with the libertarian bent. -
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Re: California road tax being charged for corn oil used as fuel.
Thu, October 11, 2007 - 2:08 PMHave you driven on the pothole-ridden roads lately? Our tax dollars at work. I don’t own a bio diesel; however not charging the road tax for these vehicles would be the proper way for supporting them. There are so few of them, I’m sure it would not brake the road tax budget.
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Re: California road tax being charged for corn oil used as fuel.
Thu, October 11, 2007 - 7:04 PM> Have you driven on the pothole-ridden roads lately?
Yes, quite often. The quality of the roads don't really correlate to the tax revenue devoted to them. I would argue that this is the result of inefficient bureaucracy and that it could be rectified by a more free-market approach.
> ...not charging the road tax for these vehicles would be the proper way for supporting them.
I disagree. I don't think the government needs to get into the business of encouraging people's behavior by either taxing them punitively or not. That's a more socialist perspective that I just can't buy into.
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Re: California road tax being charged for corn oil used as fuel.
Fri, October 12, 2007 - 5:41 AM"Have you driven on the pothole-ridden roads lately? Our tax dollars at work. I don’t own a bio diesel; however not charging the road tax for these vehicles would be the proper way for supporting them. There are so few of them, I’m sure it would not brake the road tax budget. "
Have you driven on the freeway in the past i dunno 10 years, constant construction, ever drive on a new road? i can imagine in just LA alone there are at least 2-4 thousand alternative vehicles that need to pay road taxes. Taxes also are possibly going towards this www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp or here www.keeptexasmoving.com/index....by_Feds
the Texas Corridor (also known as Mexican Corridor). A 12 lane freeway that stretches from Mexico through Texas north to Canada. It being so early in the morning I cant find documentation of it but "they" say that "they" are trying to pass legislation to make so any road in the cuntry (no sp error) can become a toll road to help pay for this (definitely in Texas they are pushing for this but also elsewhere in the cuntry too).
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